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it was in bad taste and ill-judged that any laws were broken by his two deejays making this prank call, so, again, a lot of sadness and regret being expressed. >> hard to imagine that it has taken the turn that it has. matthew chance, thank you very much. >>> the supreme court is stepping right into the middle of the same-sex marriage debate. the justices have decided to hear two important cases which will no doubt have major ramifications. cnn's crime and justice correspondent joe johns has a look for us. >> reporter: randi, after weeks of speculation, the court decided to take up two cases on the issue of same-sex marriage. the first one is about the defense of marriage act, windsor against the united states. edith windsor and her partner were married in toronto, canada in 2007. spire died in 2009 in new york at a time when new york recognized same-sex marriages that had been performed outside the side. when spire died windsor was required to pay $363,000 in federal estate taxes on her inheritance that she would not have had to pay if federal law had given their relationship the same sta
on the bill they just debated, changing federal energy efficiency laws. we'll take you live next to the capital, the chair and co-chair of the democratic caucus, just starting a briefing talking about the fiscal cliff and jobs. it's live here on c-span. >> and continues to preach the kind of message that i think the nation needs, one of compromise but one of assurity that we are going to be looking out tore the interest of the middle class and the protection of social security, medicare and medicaid for the people who are in such desperate need of those great programs that are the hallmark of our country. we have repeatedly said and our caucus again just confirmed that job creation equals deficit reduction, and we must put the country back to work. we have proposals that are on the floor. we still believe that even with the -- what little time remains and what little time remains when we're actually working, this is still possible. this is still doable. this is not a democrat or republican issue. republicans believe that america needs to go back to work. it's just a matter of hav
for those who want to see same-sex marriage become the law of the land. meanwhile, in egypt, they are just trying to get a functioning government off the ground. we'll go live to cairo where along with tear gas the words in the air today are martial law. >>> first, though, some developing news from south africa where nelson mandela is in the hospital right now. the former president is undergoing medical tests. that's according to the government. these tests have been planned for some time, we're told. they are consistent with his age. he is 94 years old. a family friend not saying how long mandela will be hospital iced, but a government spokesman insists there's, quote, no cause for alarm. mandela spent some time in the hospital earlier this year. he had stomach surgery. he became a bona fide world icon after spending some 27 years in prison for fighting against apartheid. in 1994, he became president of the country where he had been imprisoned. >>> to the fiscal cliff now. the clock continues to tick away. lawmakers now have just 24 days left to make a deal and avoid that combination of b
get everywhere because of the laws. and i know clint eastwood doesn't like these laws but tough. then you get to -- they want to extend it to europe, other countries we can travel, so people in this country can travel to those countries knowing they're not going to be handicapped any more than they are by facilities. why would a republican vote against such a deal? you first and then john. >> there's a lot of pressure from the right on this. there's the paranoia from the u.n. >> explain it. >> the notion that the u.n. is going to come in and tell us what to do. the fact of the matter is this treaty raises the world to the standard of the u.s. doesn't require the u.s. to change its standards at all and doesn't in any way give the u.n. power to do anything in this country. but i think it's -- all you have to do is say u.n. and people on the right get very exorcised. rick santorum helped lead the opposition to this treaty. i think he's out of step with the american people, out of step, by the way, on this tax cuts for the rich stuff. you know, bobby jindal said today, and i thought
a court of law where you can go in and say this is the evidence. irrefutable proof. but on the other hand, there are certain things that the intelligence community can do. for example, they can assess how stockpiles are accumulating in the country. you mentioned that the russians had supplied some of these chemical agents and that is true. you can assess how each of these areas, you know what they've done, how they've done it and how often. also, you can have some intelligence that specifically outlines exactly how good the chemical weapons are. whether they will be used, what kind of training these people have and all this is weighed in. >> there are reports that the assad regime has loaded on to missiles, that they are ready to go. to your point, you need to get between assad and the person who's going to push the button. how do we know that? that they've loaded them on to missiles? >> there have been reports this week from the "new york times" about preparations and from nbc. now, do we know that's accurate? we don't. they're trying to assess exactly where are they in the decision cycl
on taxes, anything that sounds like they will be rewarded for breaking the law and they will get an easy past is considered amnesty. jon: ronald reagan did it, didn't he? >> yes. republicans are a natural homss, they believe, for latinos. they are the party of opportunity, and hard work, of entrepreneurs and they are pro family. they have to start to speak about these issues where it doesn't sound like they are breaking up families. the republicans are trying to promote for science, technology and engineering and math, whether it's a high skilled visa or a low skilled advice a whether it's farm workers, domestic workers who clean hotepal this is all immigrant labor, and this apalo has an economic component in addition to the fact that many of their churches are telling them we can no longer side with this anti-immigration position. so it is changing out from under them and i think they are going to look for a way that they can change policy without a political backlash. joons we will be talking more about the upcoming elections a little bit later in the hour. a.b. stoddard, thank you. >>
and moldova. once this bill is signed into law, our workers, job creators and farmers will be able to take full advantage of russia and moldova's ascension to the w.t.o. -- accession to the w.t.o. the bill citrus strong enforcement provisions to ensure that russia lives up to its international trade obligations. finally this bill will help advance human rights and the rule of law in russia. today's vote would not be possible without the combined efforts of many dedicated public servants. first i would like to thank the staff at the office of the u.s. trade representative. many of them toiled for years to bring russia and moldova into the w.t.o., often at great personal sacrifice. i also would like to take a moment to thank my colleagues for all of their hard work in helping to craft this bill. an open and transparent dialogue was critical to our success. i would particularly like to again express my appreciation to all the members of the finance committee who worked with me and my staff to develop a strong package to develop many of the concerns we all have concerning our bilateral trade r
over the right to work laws in a historically union-dominated state. begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. martha: as if you don't pay enough for your cable already, there's a new report, listen to this, that shows that your set-top box and your dvr are gobbling up, like little energy magnets in your tv room even when the power is off which costs you a lot of extra money. the consumer electronics association is trying to figures this problem. they're rolling out a plan that would save consumers they say 1 1/2 billion dollars over the next five years. this comes as federal regulators are trying to get into this game to consider imposing national energy standards on the set-top boxes. we'll see if that --. bill: i believe it. you touch that box, man, heat is rising. martha: yeah. bill: warm up. martha: don't turn off your cable, whatever you
in undergraduate hours, law school, or high school. i have learned more about history, government, the true history of this country. not what we have been spoonfed in high school. or in critical about the pleasant stories where we were happy with smiles on their face. where we have come from and how far we have come and how far we can go in terms of really being that bright and shining lfght for other countries to follow by example. host: is that it? caller: please, please, is there some way we can make texas c- span? they will not go on tv for people who are on satellite. we are bleeding republicans in this state with these voting machines. texas used to be such a good state to be from. host: what do you mean, make texas c-span? caller: i would like to see a c- span texas. i bet there are a lot of people and a lot of states that would like to see that. host: your earlier comments, can we use those for a commercial? thank you for calling in this morning. here is more facebook comments on our question this morning. keenan says -- john says -- sal says -- and ruben says -- don from book raton, hi, do
a good thing. some of the deductions, raise the law right under 250 and i would be fine with that. until people are willing to get serious and say these are the specific deductions we're talking about and willing to look at the consequences it's hard to take any seriously. >> we were talking during the break about specifics and how terrifying it is for the republicans to get into specifics because as rez ra outlines the patient convulses as it were. where is the hope in all this that a deal will get done? >> i don't think anybody wants to go over the cliff at the end of the day. we now have a really big round number from john boehner but nothing specific within it and as we went through and broke down this various deductions and loopholes many are popular, many of them make an enormous amount of sense and most of them benefit the middle class, not just the rich. i don't know where this -- where that part of the discussion goes because you're talking about unicorns earlier. they're imaginary beasts and this $800 billion through loopholes and deduction is about as real as a unicorn. >> i w
ahead. >>> plus washington state's same-sex marriage law took effect at midnight and couples tied the knot just as soon as they could we'll talk about what might happen when the supreme court weighs in. >>> plus, all indications are, that congress is gearing up for a revamping of the nation's immigration laws. what that will mean for the gop and its right wing. first, though, with just over three weeks left to reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. lawmakers from both sides hit the sunday shows to late out the latest battle lines in the fight. on "meet the press," the number three house republican reiterated that any new revenues should come from closing loopholes, not raising tax rates. >> the president wants the rates to go up, that doesn't solve the problem. if the president is asking for higher rates, he's asking for more revenue. most economists agree the best way to get that is through closing special loopholes. >> on the same program, number two senate democrat, dick durbin declared that if the country does go over the fiscal cliff, there's only one party to blame -- republicans
to take these young women when they are interacting with law enforcement because a lot of them find themselves into prostitution and get treated like perpetrators as opposed to victims. this is the psychology of a perpetrator but they are victims and we have to get law enforcement and our judicial system to treat these women as victims and put them in a setting to pull themselves away from drug addition. >> in a minute, politico is -- politico is going to ask you some questions. one of the questions that has come in, who is the best leader in washington, d.c.? >> robert griffin, iii. >> why did the majority of americans reject the republican party in the recent election? >> it was an election and it was a very close election. if you look at the nims and the differences between the two. i think the republican party can do a better job of limited government and freep enterprise movement and connect those policies. >> why has there been a failure to connect? >> i'm not sure there is one reason for it and i haven't had time to think about it why it has happened but it needs to happen. t
that they want everybody to know that pot is still an illegal substance under federal law in colorado and washington and said that the justice department -- remember, i asked this question of jay carney at the briefing. i still got some grief last night or ribbing from my fellow journalists at the white house. about the fact that i was the one who asked the pot question. >> of course. >> bill: i admitted i'm a former pothead. >> hey, once a pothead always a pothead, buddy. there is no former pothead. >> bill: all right i'm a pothead. the justice department said they're still obliged to enforce federal law. i'll give that a great big capital b capital s. every police department, they decide what laws they enforce and what laws they don't. what are you going to spend money on? what are you going to spend time on? they should not spend time on pot -- chasing pot users in colorado or washington. the people have spoken. >> the voters agree with you. they've had their say. >> bill: all right. by the way president obama who
. the united states supreme court said yesterday it'll hear two cases challenging laws that define marriage as only between a man and a woman. one of them is california's ban on same sex marriage, proposition eight which voters approved in 2008. lower courts ruled that the proposition was not congress constitutional. the other case is from new york, it challenges the defense of marriage act that requires the government to deny federal benefits to legally married gay couples. it was passed in 1996 and signed by president clinton. reaction in san francisco's castro district included a range of emotions. yesterday's decision means same sex couples in california must put marriage plans on hold. they could have started marrying pleadly if the court denied review. activists say they feel some momentum from the november elections. >> three states legalized same sex marriage just a month ago. the tide is shifting. >> i want it to be tackled. i want to get married and i want to be married in any state. >> many people say they are happy the court will address the issue but they say they understand
the state of wisconsin, also pat houston, whitney houston's sister-in-law and manager and jeopardy champion ken jennings written a new book. it's tuesday, december 4th, "starting point" begins right now. >>> welcome everybody, you're watching "starting point." we're honored this morning to have the former british prime minister tony blair with us as our guest. he's going to be weighing in as a number of topics. we're going to talk about the fiscal cliff, we're going to talk about the global economy. we're going to talk about the civil war in syria. we'll talk about the royal baby coming soon. first we want to get right to zoraida sambolin for an update on the day's top stories. >> soledad, the fiscal cliff debacle, with 28 days remaining before drastic tax hikes and spending cuts take effect, a republican spending plan has been rejected by the white house. brianna keilar is live from washington. what now, brianna? >> well, right now it's about the pressure building and the clock kicking, zoraida. as house republicans in the white house try to ultimately broker a deal between two very differ
. that is what law says must happen unless we reform it. i think that is a terrible way to run a public pension program. it should have reforms. the last such reforms that have been suggested, i would be happy with any of them. there is a set of leaders and social security that is not complicated that can be done and should be done. that would be the best thing for social security. host: thank you for being on c- span. palm beach, fla., in the and the blind -- -- on the independent line -- caller: as an independent, i am starting to form an opinion that if president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff, it appears that way, because he has had no credible counteroffer. he says i will give you cuts in the future but he is not specific. his speeches are always peppered with we have to invest. he does not mean in the private sector. he wants more the firefighters, teachers, policemen. this adds to the public debt. we are borrowing, from what i read yesterday, 46 cents on every dollar. that appears to me to be untenable. i am no fan of john boehner but he makes an offer that got him in touch with
is making the most of a new law legalizing marijuana. frankie's bar and grill encouraging customers to lighted up in a private area. >> for the eighth year in a row, mysterious donor in florida has dropped a gold coin into a salvation army kettle. the gold coin is worth $1700. in dallas hitting the road for a good cause. 20,000 runners to raise money for the scottish rights hospital for children. >> gregg: let's turn to the global economy. associated press reporting that china has surpassed the u.s. as the leading trade partner. this comes as china announces the inflation rate rose 2% one month alone. sign of an economy gaining strength. what does it mean? brenda buttner, anchor of "bulls and bears." i was reading this article where shoppers in beijing have seen the prices of vegetables double in one week alone. inflation is a problem over there. what is causing it? >> basically it's not a bad problem, it's growth. china has numbers we can only dream of, growth of about 8%, we're below 2%. their factory output was up 10%. retail sales, 15%. so it is basically growth driven not suppl
kill the american soldiers, kill their wives, kill their in-laws, kill them painfully, kill them slowly. that is more than saying i hate war. there is one way for him to change the narrative. that would be to give a big chunk of money to a disabled veteran's society or a similar organization. >> also adding even though american america is a for giving country he better do something. >> that is one heck of a hit. thank you very much. >> bring it on that is the message from republicans to one well-known former elected leader. he just switched parties. see who is calling himself a democrat now. stay with us. looking for a better place to put your cash? here's one you may not have thought of -- fidelity. now you don't have to go to a bank to get the things you want from a bank, like no-fee atms, all over the world. free checkwriting and mobile deposits. now depositing a check is as easy as taking a picture. free online bill payments. a highly acclaimed credit card with 2% cash back into your fidelity account. open a fidelity cash management account today and discover another reason serious
different laws than we do. my question is if there is a technology drain, in terms of the u.s. laws, we only prohibit certain types of technology that has to do with national security and technology, but when you talk about in steve's case, it innovative things that are basically getting sucked out all along with that, nobody really talks about that. so i would like to hear from you. >> it is true. exactly what you are saying is true. other countries are stepping up their efforts to be a magnet for talent. some of it is professors, some of it is researchers, and there is no doubt. we just have to make sure we are aware of that. people want to come here and get an education and want to go back to their country, fine. it is a way to build centers of innovation and entrepreneurship in other parts of the world. that is actually part of our state department stated policy. having people come here, if they want to go back and start companies there, that is fine. but we should at least give them the option of staying year. if they want to go back, fine. but do not make them go back. people staying y
's subservient to a civilian leadership. how do you build military that values rule of law? that values human rights? calculate that into an organizational construct in its training. we can add value in the areas, and we're prepared to do that. >> time for two more, justin and christina. >> thanks, justin with fox news. i wanted to ask you about the strategic shift to the region, are you concerned that this shift could be considered premature considering there are still real problems in the middle east if you look at syria where u.s. is at risk, a serious conflict there with the chemical weapons, obviously, real concerns about iran as well. is the shift occurring before the job is done in the middle east? >> well, i would go back to the president's strategy on this, and take a look at it that didn't say we'd shift everything we have in the military or in the government into the asia pacific. it prioritized the asia pacific, but it talked about an enduring requirement to be in a present and security role in the middle east as well. you know, we're talking about, i think, a near term perspectiv
of marriage act. it defines marriage as "only a legal union between one man and one woman." the law had a big effect on edie windsor of new york who married tea spire in 2007. when spire died the irs sent a tax bill for $300,000 because it did not consider them to be married. >> the injustice. i couldn't believe they were making a stranger of this person i lived with and loveded for 43 something years. >> under that law, same sex couples who are legally married are denied about 1,000 federal benefits that other married couples get. after first supporting the defense of marriage act, the obama administration concluded last year that it violates the constitution. >> we cannot defend the federal government poking its nose into what states are doing and putting the thumb on the scale against same sex companies. >> reporter: house republicans are now taking up the law's legal defense. supporters say it helps preserve traditional marriage. >> unions of two men and two women are not the same thing as a marriage between a man and a woman. only marriage between a man and a woman can connect children t
will hear. it gives a little bit of the text put into place when it was signed into law. this is part of section 7. and determining the ruling regulation of the bureau and agencies of the united states, the word marriage means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the words bouse refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or wife. one of looking at a state militia and the other looking at a federal issue, two cases, and a decision expected by june. if you want to wait and, the numbers are on your screen. -- if you want to weigh in, the numbers are on your screen. tweets.also send us tweak this is from "the washington post." the phone lines will remain on your screen. out of georgia on the democrat line. good morning. >> thank you it. i would like to say, i do not believe the in gay marriage. but i believe everyone should have the right to practice their religion and love how the 12. these right-wingers -- there are a lot of democrats that did not believe in gay marriage, but we do not believe we should be able to stop anyone from m
government. united nations is going to be -- you know, dictating american law and things like that. look, all of the crazy talk they did for the first four years and then we had election -- the american people said yeah, we like that guy. none of this is -- i think they're going to spin the tales for four more years because they sound, for that echochamber it sounds fun. >> stephanie: ben stein on o'reilly. >> a lot of angry, bitter people out there. they've got to attack something. so they attack christmas. they're not -- i don't consider them well in the head. >> what! >> nobody is being forced to bow down and worship anybody. nobody is being forced to do anything against his will. if you drive by a crash how are you possibly harmed by that? how can you be harmed by that? >> i thought he was going to talk about susan rice. >> stephanie: eric you know why he had to join the war on christmas, because he stepped off the reservation saying the rich people should pay more in taxes a couple of weeks ago. so i think he had
extended all of those changes in 2010. that's the law of the land still today. tax policy has been exactly the same over this continuum. what has changed, mr. speaker, what has changed is the spending. the reason deficits have grown not one, not two, not three but almost four times larger than the previous record deficit in american history is not because tax policy has changed, it hasn't. it's because federal spending policy has changed. and that's what we have to get our arms around here in this body. what i show going forward, mr. speaker, put a little square around the annual budget deficits that have been run during the first four years of the obama administration, but i also project what the congressional budget office believes, that's a nonpartisan budget planning group we have here on capitol hill, what they believe is in store for us in the future if we continue under current policy. -h tsh-that's trillion dollar deficits going out for years to come. the problem is not tax policy, mr. speaker, the problem is spending policy. can we improve tax policy? you better believe it. mr. sp
.d. laws disproportionately affecting minorities, it applies to me that somehow we have something missing in our brain. white americans can and get i.d.'d to vote and can follow the laws, so what are you telling what people? they're not good enough? this is what bothers me about a lot of rhetoric coming from democrats and the left. we always have to make a specialness when we deal with minorities because they are too feeble minded. we have to make concessions because they cannot follow the rules. when you treat people like it does, i do not think they want to inspire. >> the editor of conservative black chick.com, crystal wright. >> editors say hurricane a sandy caused $5 billion to four infrastructure -- -- poor infrastructure damage in their state. >> good morning. i welcome everyone to today's hearing which have called to address the devastating impact that super-storm sandy had a run -- had on our regional transportation, the most widely new transportation network and unprecedented damage to our system and estimates of the damage have reached more than an $7 billion. across the regent
, washington state's law allowing recreational marijuana described as one of the most liberal in the world went into effect midnight last night. the state will start licensing farms and retail stores to grow and sell marijuana next year. police across the state are said to be taking a laissez-faire approach. >> where's that willie geist? actually, that's heilmann. you know, i'm surprised connecticut has a pretty darn liberal law. >> colorado. >> colorado, man. >> what's in "parade" this week, joe? >> in "parade" this week, winners of their first annual holiday bake-off. >> oh, good, maybe good recipes. >> in "parade" magazine. >> i want to make cookies. >> i'm sure as a marijuana -- >> now, stop p continue look how adorable that picture is. i'm going to make cookies just like that this weekend. >> chow on those and marijuana. >> stop it. >>> mike allen is here with the morning "playbook." we haven't talked a whole lot about jim demint leaving. i had a call with him yesterday, and he said and he believed, and i certainly understand it, he's leaving because he'll have more money running the herit
this detention center. and it follows what was arguably the most bizarre day in his month-long run from the law. [ sirens blaring ] instead of being deported to belize in handcuffs on thursday, a seemingly unconscious john mcafee is wheeled into a hospital on a gurney. mcafee's month-long game of cat and mouse with authorities in two countries, ended with a sudden emergency. the software anti-virus pioneer, apparently suffering from a heart problem thursday morning, became unresponsive in this immigration detention center. mcafee telling abc news -- >> i simply passed out. and i think that's the combination of stress and everything else. i hit my head. >> reporter: a dramatic scene, with this ambulance powering through a thicket of cameramen. mcafee, in the back of the ambulance, lying prone on a headboard, eyes closed. then, the chase. tv crews careening through guatemala's narrow streets. the press, pursuing mcafee on this gurney, right into the emergency room. as medics transferred him to a bed and began undressing him, suddenly, the man who appeared nearly dead, spoke. >> please, not in fro
-- and a few days after that, he committed suicide. >>> john mcafee was briefly in the hospital in gut gut law ar- - guatemala. martin savidge is live in guatemala city. you've been working on this story for a long time. martin? >> reporter: yeah, dave. i think today is gonna be a crucial day at least for the legal team of john mcafee as they attempt to pull out one last-minute stay to prevent him from being deported back to bozize. he's been in hiding from belize authorities who say they don'tly want to question him about the death of his american neighbor, greg fall. yet, he feels he's threatened by the authorities. you know, dramatic, he says he -- he came here to guatemala where he felt safe. and he hired and attorney -- an attorney and was seen very public. we saw him in belize. and yet it is here where he was arrested. he was brought in because he entered this country illegally. he asked for asylum. that's been denied. so it is anticipated he will head back to belize to answer questions. dave? >> thank you for the latest information from guatemala on john mcafee. thank you. >>> 7:53. wel
the health care law. open enrollment ends december 7th. so now's the time. visit medicare.gov or call 1-800-medicare. >>> back now at 8:19. a woman recovering from a heartbreaking holiday tragedy. last year on christmas morning, a house fire claimed the lives of madonna badger's three young daughters, lily, sarah, and grace as well as her parents. when i spoke with her six months ago, she was in the throes of enormous and unimaginable grief. this morning, madonna is with us to talk about how she's doing now. it's great to see you. it's nice to see you smiling a little bit. how are you doing? >> i'm doing really well. i'm shocked that i'm doing okay. but i'm doing really well. >> last time i talked to you, you said when you smiled or when you laughed you immediately felt guilty. >> yes. >> do you still feel that way? >> no, i don't feel that way. i mostly don't feel that way because when i do feel happy, when i do feel joyful, it's when i can feel the presence of my children and my mom and dad the most. >> i want to talk to you about that. because in talking to our producers and you talk
most of which at some point in time is going to become law. and the longer we put this off, the deeper the hole gets, so we're trying to focus on how do we get this done now-- >> woodruff: let me ask you about part of your plan. part of it would means test social security, medicare benefits. in order, the benefits would go down for those at the higher income levels. we had the economist paul krugman on the "newshour" last night who said that, you know, not only do the polls show many american oppose, this but he said the benefit you get, the money that would be raised from doing that is really not enough to overcome the pain that he said it would cause lower and middle-income americans. >> well, first of all, it would cause no pain to lower and middle-income citizens because they wouldn't be affected. and i agree, it's only one of the things that needs to occur. it's a small part. there are many manager transformative things that need to happen in social security and medicare and my bill outlines both transformative things to really make them solvent. there's a $27 trillion unfund lieb
protests erupting in michigan as state lawmakers pass a right-to-work law last night. it's a state dominated by organized labor. union members are blasting the new measure saying it will weaken unions. right to work bans unions from forcing workers to pay union dues. mike tobin has more from our chicago bureau. what happened there, mike? >> reporter: well, jon, a spokesman for the democratic caw can cuts in michigan just told me they cannot stop from passage the legislation that governor rick schneider calls freedom to work because the republicans simply have the numbers. so the demonstrations will continue at the capitol. as you mentioned, the demonstrations have already gotten ugly, there have been several arrests, pepper spray has been used, additional state troopers have been deployed today. and unlike these drawn-out labor standoffs we've seen in recent years, governor rick schneider has been able to slam this legislation through, and despite all of the visuals, he insists that he's not picking a fight. >> no, it's not picking a fight. i view this as solving an issue for michi
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